Madeleine – Portelas 22 Jun 2007

This is my take on Portelas 22/Jun/2007. It is from Google Earth.

Here is what I see.

I see rubbish dumped on the tarmac.

I see a JCB. It can only be moving rubbish from point A to point B.

I see a bunch of open lorry containers, arranged such that the JCB can dump rubbish into them.

The configuration of this work zone has changed significantly over time.

But in June 2007, the image shows a simple garbage in garbage out operation.

By the way, why are you online so late on a Saturday night? My excuse is that I shall be dog-sitting our new puppy while I watch the Australian Grand Prix.

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10 thoughts on “Madeleine – Portelas 22 Jun 2007

  1. Hi Sil !
    https://www.google.pt/maps/place/Aterro+Sanit%C3%A1rio+do+Barlavento/@37.2136857,-8.5247237,2388m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xd1b27029b325f0f:0xedd36eaa29814285!8m2!3d37.2122409!4d-8.5276946?hl=fr
    This is Chão Frio. Does it look like a wild Middle Age dumpster ?

    And here is the transfer station of Lagos (Sitio do Paul, close to ETAR). 11 years ago, the principle was the same : compacting (no way to see, for instance, if a big dead dog is there) and the firm in charge, ALGAR, was the same too.
    https://www.google.pt/maps/place/ETAR+de+Lagos/@37.1214632,-8.687188,386m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xd1b30469e08263d:0x3503c9519743f41b!8m2!3d37.12114!4d-8.6875151?hl=fr
    You hardly see the differences in levels, nor the huge press that reduces garbage into pads. As you live now not very far, I guess that if you were really interested you would have gone there…

  2. SIL, what you see in the google image you sent comes from eco points where the residues are not conditioned in plastic bags. Those urban residues need to be selected again because some people put paper with plastic or glass with metal. Let’s hope that new generations are more civilized. Little children were taught how to select residues when my daughter was in a State primary school 25 years ago.
    We live in a plastic society, it wouldn’t pass somebody’s mind to open their garbage plastic bag and to dump its content into a common bin.

  3. At the time Madeleine went missing I theorised that a waste disposal unit would be a possible way of disposing body. I googled and found information on public waste disposal units (mechanical – like found in domestic kitchens but bigger) and found reference to the implementing of such units around Luz. But I could never find article again. I’ve been thinking of this lately and this is how I stumbled on your blog. Do you have any idea where these public waste disposal units actually are in Portugal?

  4. The only waste disposal units in Luz are communal bins. There’s 3 or 4 types, but nothing like a waste disposal unit.

    One takes one’s rubbish to a communal bin, and then the câmara picks it up and disposes of it.

    There are compaction systems on most, if not all, waste lorries.

    The lorries take this to an intermediate waste centre. Depending on the type of station, the rubbish is then compacted again, or simply passed on, before being transported to the final destination.

    When it reaches the end centre, the rubbish is sifted through. To make this easier, it appears mechanical shredders are used to separate the rubbish.

  5. “When it reaches the end centre, the rubbish is sifted through. To make this easier, it appears mechanical shredders are used to separate the rubbish.”
    Do you have a link for that, please, Sil ?
    You seem to insist ignoring why the transfer stations exist though you live close to one ! Not all municipalities take the solid residues to a transfer station. Those close to Chao Frio landfill take it there, where it is compacted.

  6. May I ask if you have any further information about the case where a young infant went through the shredders in the south of Lisbon?

    I am interested because of the case of Corrie McKeague. His phone signals matched to the route of a waste lorry from where he disappeared to the local landfill.

    I have but two problems with this case. First, the police conducted an extensive search of the landfill site, but failed to find any trace of a body. Second, the load was supposed to be cardboard, which is recyclable, not landfill material.

    As to Porto de Lagos, I have a link somewhere that they had cut the manual workforce because they had increased the efficiency of the mechanical separation process. But they still need hand workers to deal with all the trash that goes into the general waste bins. There are many of these in the Algarve. For example, my two nearest bins are simply multi-purpose and recycling at this end is not practical.

    • I’ve heard of that child found in Seixal, but the story is very badly told and the versions are contradictory.
      I’m aware of the Xorrie McKeague case, they had finally decided to search the landfill, but I heard nothing more.
      The transfer station does no separation of waste, just compacting into pads that are put one on top of the other on large lorries driven to Barlavento landfill. I’m afraid that the recyclable stuff mixed up with waste isn’t sorted out. It would cost too much money doing that. What they sort out is the recyclable stuff collected apart : they have to since people mix up paper with glass or metal.

  7. The problem with the McCann case is that the general waste bins were searched by volunteers on the night Madeleine was reported missing but the next day the waste was collected and removed as usual.

    • No, some bins were searched by volunteers the following morning (May 4), hence many hours after the truck had emptied them, which happened every night except on Sunday in the centre of the village, hours after the collected waste had been compacted in the transfer station of Lagos, Sitio do Paul, Portela (close to the water station) , without any control of the waste.

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